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#21 CruciasNZ

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:20 PM

Oh AP Lux is legit. AD Lux...

Seriously, I don't know how I did that. Really. I had more kills than the ADC by the end. I wasn't even doing anything... I don't know.

Well if you're on an AP heavy team the enemy will naturally stack magic resistance. If your ADC was loosing lane they'll generally not bother with armour until it's too late. Going AD on an AP character can be a great way to duck out your enemy.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:28 PM

Huh, Ive never seen an adc lux. Would be entertaining to watch. Did you start ap and then switch?


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 01:45 PM

I started support, then... well, my ADC couldn't secure a kill to save his life.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:11 PM

I started support, then... well, my ADC couldn't secure a kill to save his life.

Fair call, there are some terrible ADCs out there, and then there are the ADCs having a bad day; either way blood must be spilt


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:27 PM

Fair call, there are some terrible ADCs out there, and then there are the ADCs having a bad day; either way blood must be spilt

If its anything like DOTA, most ADC players are terrible anyway because they resort to a character who right-clicks to win.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:35 PM

If its anything like DOTA, most ADC players are terrible anyway because they resort to a character who right-clicks to win.

Not all ADCs work like that, some are very situational.

 

Take Twitch for example, he has the fastest base attack speed in the game and among the lowest health.

  • Q = Stealth and move faster for 2/4/6/8/10 then attach faster for 3
  • W = Throw barrel of poison goop (but he's going to want it back)
  • E = Detonate stacks of poison for levelled damage
  • R = Shoot further, faster and penetrate multiple targets for 7 seconds
  • Passive = Poison stack to 5 from base attacks

You are not tough enough nor possessing high enough damage to click to win. It's all about timing, angles of attack and teamwork (more your team groups the enemy the more you can hit)

 

There are some "Press R To Delete" characters, like AP Lux and her super beam of doom >>


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 01:21 PM

Yeah, ADCs generally aren't tanky enough to just click to win. they need their team soaking for them generally in order to get shit done. I play Varus because he's got great poke for laning, a good secondary passive in his W (and hell, a good passive anyhow), which provides stacks for burst damage, a stun in his ult and a fairly decent wave clear in E, as well as being tougher than a lot of other ADCs, without needing the positioning tricks of Draaaaaven.

Having said that, Cait's another favourite of mine. Poke, check. Good escape, mini wards, and dat ult... heh, dat ult. Love it. Cait lets you make fun plays. Varus is consistent. Cait doesn't have the durability Varus does though. Bottom line, neither are click to win. Play with your team or don't play at all.


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 07:09 PM

There are some click to win ADCs though.

 

For example when Katarina plays ADC... SPIN TO WIN!


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 09:50 PM

Oh god yeah. I always hated Talon. Not exactly click to win, but damn cheesy anyhow. Feth his AD stacking man, just... feth that.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 01:46 AM

Hmm.i love jinx. Her skill set is a lot of fun. Plus I like her kind of crazy. Although I have been enjoying twit lately. As for talon.. I find him to be a little underpowered.
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Posted 14 June 2014 - 02:40 AM

Personality wise Jinx is Naia


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 04:18 PM

Jinx is pretty cool, can't complain about her skill set.

 

I started League with Ashe like a lot of people, back when you got a free champ for completing the tutorial (out of Garen, Ryze and Ashe). The only problem with Ashe and Varus is that they have no escapes, so you need a bodyguard. Split push and you're probably boned.

 

And Talon... dear God do I hate Talon. So much. The only way to deal with him mid is building armour, which means Seeker's armguard. No one builds Seeker's early game, no one. So that wastes time and gold I could be spending on something useful, like a Gunblade.

 

Bloody AD mid assassins...


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 04:38 PM

Kayle is a great counter to talon. But I don't know if you play her.
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Posted 14 June 2014 - 04:41 PM

Pretty much anyone that can dodge his burst or stack armour really. Kayle would work, as would most aggressive tanks to be fair. Bring dem purps yo.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:29 PM

If you get on top of Talon it's all good, if you're beneath him then it sucks.

 

Same applies to Jinx, Cait, Lucian and Varus in bottom lane - gawd but I hate them


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:41 PM

It's pretty applicable to any ADC or AP - sorry, "Marsman" or "Mage". Goddammit Riot...


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 10:45 PM

It's pretty applicable to any ADC or AP - sorry, "Marsman" or "Mage". Goddammit Riot...

Marksman and Mage does not mean ADC or AP. They describe a playstyle of each. Twitch is an ADC, suggested to queue as a Marksman but he is also an Assassin. Team Builder attracts ranked players more than normal btw, better games to be hand in normal blind pick


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 10:54 PM

Marksman is a dumb change. Does anybody know why they did that?
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Posted 14 June 2014 - 11:15 PM

Marksman is a dumb change. Does anybody know why they did that?

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 10:01 AM

I dont know about you guys, but who needs to Click to kill when you have a AP powered Heirmadinger. With 500+ AP at mid game, aint no one passing through my death triangle.

 

Honestly though I have no Idea about what any of you are saying. I just wanted to show off.


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