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#21 CruciasNZ

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:40 AM

You don't exactly hear much about british involvement other than they were pretty much getting their asses kicked until the united states entered the war. And I just realized that a large majority of you are from the UK so I apologize for any offense. in the above statement.

There's a difference between getting your arse kicked and holding off a superior enemy. Nazi Germany had the resources of multiple countries and populations of a couple (when combied larger than the UK by far) to recruit from


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 09:32 AM

I would argue that British pilots defending the UK weren't getting their asses kicked.

For sure we couldn't go on the offensive due to resources etc but we did ourselves proud in WW2 we are a very small island nation after all.

Also on titanfall once you unlock satchel charges, use them when rodeo riding a hostile titan, if you have the more ordnance perk slap 3 of those bad boys inside, jump run and detonate that's one dead titan.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:57 AM

Germany would have destroyed us if there wasn't the problem of an ocean standing between us and them, they had no chance to keep monopolizing their blitzkrieg tactic. So the only option they had was to try and bomb us to death, if it wasn't for our natural terrain advantage we would have been slaughtered like the rest of Europe. I think the only thing we beat the Germans at in that war was that we beat their intelligence network and without them knowing and basically abducted all their agents the moment they set foot in the UK.

 

If the US didn't also had the advantage of a big fucking ocean between them and the rest of Europe, and if the Russians wasn't keeping them busy I'm fairly certain Germany would have gave them a thrashing as well. 

 

There's also a lot of debate if the world would be better off if Germany had a swift victory and instead of it becoming a long bloody conflict (because by the time the rest of the world started to react to them Germany already had a huge advantage, so we had no chance at a swift victory), personally I think it's very likely the world could be better off if Germany had won, although I reckon we would be a lot further back in technological advancement, as a long and bloody war meant all sciences were at a powerhouse stage for a long time.


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 12:56 PM

You don't exactly hear much about british involvement other than they were pretty much getting their asses kicked until the united states entered the war. And I just realized that a large majority of you are from the UK so I apologize for any offense. in the above statement.

Seriously? That is how the British were winning over the US, as one of the reason the US didn't want to be involved was that they didn't want to join the losing side and find out their ally was defeated a month after joined. Whenever British Propaganda needed to win over Americans Churchill didn't want to spend money on an extensive campaign saying why America should join them but showed the Germans could be beaten after their inconceivable victory over modern armies (Poland and France). Although Poland wasn't as developed with its army as Britain, Germany and France they did have access to modern weapons such as Planes and Tanks.

 

True Britain did suffer heavily at first due to France and Britain thought that World War I was basically going to play out again so they dug in and to be honest the French Maginot line did hold out for some time and stopped German advance into that area but due to the new tactics (Blitzkrieg) used by the German commanders it took the allies by surprise as they didn't know that is how tanks could have been used as most thought they were only useful when support infantry and would be terrible if they went off by themselves.

 

Dunkirk which is seen as a miracle was a full British retreat from France which is seen as a victory for the British while many would see it as a defeat. Regardless if the Germans charged forward majority of the British army would have fallen and we would have surrendered. We would have actually been treated quite fairly by the Germans as we are the decent of Aryans according to Nazism due to the Saxons as they came from Tribus Saxony in Northern Germany.

 

Actually in Mein Kampf Hitler did want good relations with Britain as he saw Britain and Germany as similar and like minded people. Was a member of the Royal family of Britain who fought with the Kaiser in World War I because Queen Victoria sent him off to be trained in Germany then when he was reaching the age of enlisting World War I came. He was eventually banished from Britain and her Empire due to fighting with the Germans by Parliament as many were outraged someone turned their back on their homeland. He was allowed back when Hitler made him his Ambassador to Britain.

 

Britain didn't want to be involved at first the only air strikes they did on Germany was dropping leaflets giving out reason why the two shouldn't be at war and why German expansion was a bad thing. Did give flight crews experience flying over Germany but Britain didn't want another World War due to Chamberlain fighting in the First World War and attempted to appease Hitler and he thought any who'd seen the horrors that WWI had to offer wouldn't want to bring it back.

 

There were many fields of war in which Britain was involved. They helped make the Invasion of Sicily take like a week due to massive amounts of confusion given to the Germans with false plans for an Invasion of Greece. Although that was at the time when the US was involved but the British spying had broken German codes long before that and we knew Hitler's day of invasion of the USSR, we also had been spying on American communications to know what the Americans were talking about before they joined, once they joined in we ceased spying on them.

 

Britain expeditionary forces in India suffered some of the worst horrors in all of World War II due to fighting Japan but stopped Japan's spread into Asia Minor. To be honest if they were told they were be changed from fighting in Asia and going to the beaches of Normandy they'd probably be incredibly grateful...

 

To be honest Hitler allying with Mussolini was probably one of his worst moves as one of the only battles the Italians won was against tribals and they only really won because they used chemical weapons... When they faced a modern army they were thrashed like when they assisted in attacking France and need to have their arses saved by the Germans and when they invaded Greece and need to be saved by the Germans or when they invaded North Africa and were winning at first then the British Army arrived so the Germans needed to save the Italians again. To be honest if Rommel was given what he needed in North Africa then the Germans could have probably taken majority of the Middle East.

 

I did recently watch America's planned invasion of Japan's home island. Was going to dwarf the D-Day landings as it was expected a million of Americans would die in the taking of the home island. As the Atomic Bomb was just a theory and no one knew if it would work so they had plans on other things. Eventually Chemical Weapons were going to be used on Japan as America might have helped draft the Geneva Convention but never actually signed and this would have been in retaliation for the Japanese using chemical weapons on China in 1937. Whether or not that would stand up in a human rights case I doubt it but the war heroes who drew up plans which ended World War II similarly to the American commander in World War I who was outraged that the Allies allowed the Axis to surrender as he wanted the only to be over when he was in Berlin.

 

This was covered up by America's government as generals like that got a large amount of people killed needlessly as fighting didn't stop until the last minute. I think that a few were killed afterwards like a German officer who was shot when he was moving over to surrender his forces but due to the wonderful miscommunication that was so common in World War I was shot by Americans who fought he was attacking them. Can't really blame them though as they thought they were still fighting and the usual way to do that shoot first ask questions later.

 

Still annoys me when people think all of the Wehrmacht were members of the Nationalist Socialist Party. The Wehrmacht is the German Army it would be like saying all the American army follows the Democratic party because they are in power...

Majority of the Wehrmacht was highly supportive of Hitler since he brought them from the brink of falling to Communism and economic destruction to become one of the world super powers. If someone went up a soldier of the Wehrmacht and send Hitler is killing millions of Jews they would have probably beaten for saying something ridiculous. No doubt German was racists against the Jewish population but that comes from years of propaganda which had been fed to people all over the world for years. If the Waffen SS turned up then they were Hitler's personal bodyguard and were "Elite" compared to the normal German soldiers. 

 

Near the end though there were several regiments of Waffen SS quickly drafted from nearby occupied lands which the Germans took over much earlier.

I still think the most underrated German unit has to be the Fallschirmjager as they were one of the first Paratrooper regiments in the World and basically showed France, Britain and US that Paratroopers could be very useful.

 

The last unit fighting in World War II in the European Theater between Germany and Russia was actually a French SS division that if they surrendered would have been called traitors and executed or they'd have been shot by Russians. Wenck's 9th army retreated taking as many civilians as they could have to the West to be treated better (Not shot on sight) unlike if they surrendered to the Russians.

 

That is why Germany kept on fighting because they really poked the bear when Russia came charge into Germany as the Russians saw the horrors of the Waffen SS (Mass killings of inferior people and leaving them in unmarked graves) which naturally pissed off the Russians so when they came into German territory they didn't give a fuck about the Germans. Wenck was actually killed I think for being in the Nazi high command but regardless his last actions makes him a hero to me as he helped save thousands of civilians and he is own troops who were mainly made up of young boys and old men (Volkssturm) who can't really fight but the Hitler Youth was the most fanatical force within World War II as they'd charge T-34s with Panzerfausts and not care about their safety at all. Majority of the German army laughed at them at first because they were still boys but the Hitler Youth was basically covered up as say scouts but actually was massive amounts of indoctrination and basic training for the army which most boys liked to do because they were out and about, learnt how to shoot, use camouflage, campcraft and all the other stuff like that by the time they joined they had more training than some veteran germans as they'd be taught since 1936 or before. 

 

Also German marches are much more energetic and enjoyable than other countries for some reason...

 

We all needed each other to beat Germany, if Britain had fallen America would have had a horrible time making a foothold into Europe as crossing the channel was bad enough for the D-Day landing now imagine crossing an ocean... If America hadn't gotten involved we wouldn't have had the increased amount of equipment and if Russia had fallen then we'd have had the actual German army return to the West rather than the recruits from occupied territories. To be honest the Russians had it worst. There was actually a Finnish SS group of volunteers who went into battles against the Russians as the Russians had fought against the Fins earlier and Mannerheim treated a thin line between collaboration with the Nazis instead of just cooperating with them to ensure Finland's safety. Germany wanted to move through Finland but Finland was supported with munitions to push back the Russians to the original Finnish line.

 

There you go a random jumble of World War II trivia basically explaining in the beginning how Britain wasn't "getting their asses kicked" but actually putting up stern resistance to a massively outnumbering force from the Luftwaffe. Thank fuck for radar and the Polish... To be honest we did have the RAF beaten a couple of times to the point wouldn't have been able to recover but then Goring changed his mind and started attacking a new target just as Britain was at breaking point.


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 01:57 PM

Point taken, alright lets get back to titan fall. So does anybody know a way to take out a titan fast enough so that the pilot doesn't have enough to to get out and shoot me or a friendly titan kills it before I do? I tried using my anti titan weapon on it but that resulted in me killing myself.


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 02:09 PM

Satchel charges if you have unlocked them, stealth and rodeo the titan drop 2-3 charges jump off get some distance and detonate.
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Posted 06 July 2014 - 03:09 PM

i don't think I've unlocked satchel charges yet


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 03:30 PM

Well if you haven't got Satchel Charges then you will not have the Spitfire LMG which rips through Titans when you have Slammer attachment.

 

I think an Ogre dies if you fire a full mag into it. Stryder health disintegrates..

 

Also when you get Satchel Charges there will be a learning curve when using them. This generation I'm in requires me to use them... Better than last generation in which I had to use a shotgun, I felt like such a *CENSORED* when I killed people with it...


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 04:21 PM

I found the spitfire in general a decent wep, that an the standard carbine are decent, also like the battle rifle G something.

What's the challenge for the slammer mod?

Also with regards to the generations, do you have to earn the weps etc from scratch again?
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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:23 PM

When you going into your next generation you return to level 1 but have extra challenges with weapons. Basically all it is as I find when I reach max level in games I get bored I have nothing more to accomplish.


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 06:45 PM

Cheers Dx
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Posted 06 July 2014 - 07:30 PM

Holy crap what a long post by DX

 

I favoured the 40mm on the Titan, but loved the Railgun - just found it too situational. As for personal weapons, the burst rifle was my weapon of choice, along with EMP grenades and the stinger thing (scout anti-titan gun). Sniper is awesome but in a COD clone it's always going to be gimped


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 07:52 PM

Yup noticed that hardly any sniping at all, it's all burst weapons.

Tried the railgun but it just couldn't get to grips with it, horses for courses I suppose.

I was using the pilot carbine all the time but I am loving the spitfire, got the slammer mod and it's mad the dps, running that and satchels for a good anti titan build.
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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:09 PM

If you want to snipe I found that there are a couple of positions good for it. I deploy my Titan with the 40mm on auto-pilot below me, then procede to shoot everyone shooting it or boarding it. Use the semi-auto Sniper, the other one is not good in this situation


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 10:23 PM

Ah that's a bloody good idea cheers Cru
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Posted 06 July 2014 - 10:42 PM

Holy crap what a long post by DX

Do I get a medal for that? =P

 

Personally I like the 40mm with Burst fire, Cluster missile which can kill Pilots and Titan quite easily and I use Particle wall ability as it allows me to fight much safer against other Titans.

 

I never really liked the DMR that much. I did get all the weapon attachments for all weapons for an Achievements.

 

I usually used the G2A4 or whatever it is in my first Generation religiously and I could kill people in close combat with it easily or I could kill them from mid-range easily as well. I think when I last played I was in my third generation and can't use the G2A4 now =/ Usually use the SMG now as the generation requirements need me to use it...


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:21 PM

It is a COD game (albeit with robots) so AK47 style guns will always outperform guns like the DMR and Burst Rifle. However those take skill to use, and in the right hands they're like a scalpal dropped from orbit and hitting a hamster


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 01:36 AM

Well I love semi auto weapons in games. If I'm playing Gears of War I use a Hammerburst then get call a cheater due to firing the Hammerburst "too fast".

 

FAL on Call of Duty when I did play it but haven't played for sometime and the last time I played I purposely made a joke of it by running around with nothing but a knife and was killing people with assault rifles because yeah CoDgic! (CoDgic is a mix of Call of Duty and Logic = CoDgic)

 

Space Marine I use a Stalker Bolter due to it being semi auto and having a scope...

 

If I played a few other shooters I would use a Semi auto weapon. Battlefield had most weapon with the ability to switch through Burst, Single and Auto fire which was nice so you could use Auto for close combat burst and single for mid-long range depending on what you called mid-long range. Although I hate DMRs with a passion on BF4 because of a traumatic experience when an entire enemy team used DMRs on our team, all you could hear was a roar of single shot weapons... Come to think of it I haven't play BF4 for almost a month or two now...


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 02:14 AM

Well I love semi auto weapons in games. If I'm playing Gears of War I use a Hammerburst then get call a cheater due to firing the Hammerburst "too fast".

 

FAL on Call of Duty when I did play it but haven't played for sometime and the last time I played I purposely made a joke of it by running around with nothing but a knife and was killing people with assault rifles because yeah CoDgic! (CoDgic is a mix of Call of Duty and Logic = CoDgic)

 

Space Marine I use a Stalker Bolter due to it being semi auto and having a scope...

 

If I played a few other shooters I would use a Semi auto weapon. Battlefield had most weapon with the ability to switch through Burst, Single and Auto fire which was nice so you could use Auto for close combat burst and single for mid-long range depending on what you called mid-long range. Although I hate DMRs with a passion on BF4 because of a traumatic experience when an entire enemy team used DMRs on our team, all you could hear was a roar of single shot weapons... Come to think of it I haven't play BF4 for almost a month or two now...

I find the BF4 DMRs to be lack lustre, so I use that fancy Sniper (the one from the movie Sniper) with Holo Dot. Really fucking funny when you can 1 hit KO anyone at range or close quarters. When I need a faster firing weapon there's always the pistol. Not played since nearer Xmas myself, not as much fun without all the people we had on the x360 BF3.

 

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 03:35 AM

See i'm more spray and pray, just with a little it more accuracy, so in CoD I mainly use assault rifles with ACOGs and fore grips. In space marine I use a bolted with kraken bolts when I'm not going assault. In bad company 2 I always use the xm8 ACOG and the M16 when i want damage and precision. I don't have BF4, and from all the comments I hear I probable won't get it any time soon


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