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[palin2004]

Alright now, I have discussed this with JC before and I'm gonna post at the bottom what I think. I'm trying to figure out/get other peoples consensus' on the different chapters/legions vs each other, and why.

Ultramarines vs Word Bearers : because both are the most numerous of their respective sides and each is the founder/progenerator of the rest, for the most part. Word Bearers spread the Word of Lorgar and stirred up the chaos in the rest of the legions. Ultrasmurfs are the biggest legion loyalist side and they "spread the word of the Codex Astartes" wherever some poor sod has an ear and nowhere to run.

Blood Angels vs World Eaters : Because both are crazed blood hungry psychopaths. One goes into blood lust for khorne, one turns to the Black Rage eventually.

Imperial Fists vs Iron Warriors : Both are siege specialists, breakers and makers. duh.

Thats 3, what about the rest?

[MetalHead666X]

The Thousand Sons and Space Wolfs

[JC 042]

Alpha Legion and Raven Guard. (Nothing to do with the fact I am currently reading Deliverance Lost )

[trophicmocha]

Emperors Children vs Iron Hands, im sure the Hands will want revenge for Fulgrim killing the first primarch during the heresy.

[achillesFTW1337]

Death Guard and Salamanders

Not any more hatred between the two than any others, but they both are close ranged firefight specialists. Plus I'm sure cooked Plague Marines is a right foul smell.

Dark Angels and DARK Angels

see what i did there?

[Fallen Angels95]

Imperial fists and death guard.

Luna wolves vs imperial fists.

Night lords vs salamanders.

Ultramarines vs sons of horus 
So what exactly is it your doing here Palin?

[Batman2213]

Alpha Legion and Raven Guard. (Nothing to do with the fact I am currently reading Deliverance Lost )

Deliverence Lost aside, I think it could be argued that the Raven Guard and Night Lords are more similar to each other...

[trophicmocha]

Indeed i believe the two primarchs represent the arguement between nature and nuture, with corax being nuture and curze being nature.

[JC 042]

Indeed i believe the two primarchs represent the arguement between nature and nuture, with corax being nuture and curze being nature.

I was going Stealth vs Infiltration when it came down to Legion vs Legion but ok.

[palin2004]

Imperial fists and death guard.

Luna wolves vs imperial fists.

Night lords vs salamanders.

Ultramarines vs sons of horus 
So what exactly is it your doing here Palin?

I am trying to figure each of the legions/chapters strengths and find their opposite on the other side.

[Fallen Angels95]

aha ok then i can help.....

space wolves and thousand sons
iron hands and emperors children
imperial fists and iron warriors
white scars and world eaters
blood angels and world bearers
salamanders and death guard
Dark angels and black legion (sons of horus/luna wolves)
raven guard and night lords
Ultramarines and alpha legion

[Talos Valcoran]

Night Lords vs Imperial Fists.

[Fallen Angels95]

^how so?

[palin2004]

Fallen the only one you posted I agree with is IFvIW, the rest make no sense.

[trophicmocha]

I dont know if you guys have heard or seen anything about this, but at gamesday uk you will be able to get the horus heresy betrayal: book one, it has full legion lists for the world eaters, sons of hours, death guard and emperors children army lists background, histories, character profiles and army special rules, essentially a stand alone book series with everything you would need to do one of the legions, this was what they sent me in a preview email today

[Alexandros the Herald of Blood]

guys most of the things you put are wrong

World Eaters - Blood Angels -close combat
Alpha Legion - Utlramarines -tatical
Iron Warriors - Imperial Fists -siege
Night Lords - White Scars - fast attacks
Sons of Horus(Black Legion) Unholiest - Space Wolves Holiest

the rest I'm unsure about because i have hardly read anything about the other legions but these ones I am 100% sure about. Just read Warhammer 40K: Wikia search it on google.

[DusteirTax]

Dark Angels vs. Night Lords

[Alexandros the Herald of Blood]

i disagree Dustier but tell me how do u figure

[dx144]

Iron Hands and Emperors Children mainly because of the battles near the start of the Heresy when Fulgrim went to ask Ferrus to join Horus and turn against the Emperor but he declined the offer and tried to stop Fulgrim but then got beaten up and lost his Hammer. But he did destroy Fireblade and remade it then used it in his last fight against Fulgrim.

Made the Emperors Children and Iron Hands battle that little bit more tragic.

Iron Warriors vs Imperial Fists because Iron Warriors were the greatest siege warriors the Imperium had while Imperial Fists were the best castle/fortress buildings in the Imperium.. Also I think Pertubo got incredible upset when Dorn was chosen to build up Terra.

Ultramarines vs Word Bearers

Ultramarines were quite favoured by the Emperor and they were chosen to destroy the Word Bearers perfect planet in honour of the Emperor. So they pretty much destroyed everything that the Word Bearers stood for.

Space Wolves vs Thousand Sons

Really doesn't need to be said as it should be common knowledge to almost everyone who knows about 40K. Because of the destruction of Prospero and how the Space Wolves did it which essential turn a loyalist Legion into a Chaosy Legion. (Wasn't Space Wolves fault as Horus told them to do it and they just followed his orders. Horus wasn't revealed to be a traitor at this time.)

Most of the legions didn't have grudges or hate another because they just had jealousy or were just dicks with their combat beliefs. Emperors Children strove for perfect so if they were with another Legion or Imperial Army unit they got angry with the Army or Legion they were with because they should have been closer to perfection seeing as they were going to be fighting with the most perfect Legion.

The Alpha Legion had a dislike of Ultramarine due to the fact Guilliman always thought of the Alpha Legion not worthy of being Astartes because of their stealth and deceitful tactics. In response Alpharius from time to time used those tactics even when it would have been better not to but he used them just to show Guilliman the Alpha Legion could.

I might be wrong (Probably am!) but that is what I think =P

[Fallen Angels95]

Thanks. see I have a bit of sense at least.