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[OrkPork]

Haha, yeah the link worked that time. Pretty funny.

Honestly I think he's butchered the Ultramarines, too. He's made them perfect to the point of destroying what personality they had. At least we still have Graham McNeil to make them likeable.

[Codicier Valtrius]

This was discussed at length on the SM forums, but if you missed it then it basically says the Grey Knights killed the remaining SoB that weren't corrupted, and thier blood was spread over the GK Aeigis Armour to aid in repelling the daemons. I dont know where to begin to describe how inaccurate this is!

Spoiler

Chaos comes to the Basilica of st. Mariel on the world of Van
Horne. A statue of the Emperor is accidentally damaged
during renovation work of the inner sanctum, disrupting the
forgotten stasis-reliquary within. As the ancient prison
crumbles to dust, the Bloodthirster Ka'jagga'nath, Lord of the
Bloodtide, breaks free. At his bellowed command, a tide of
gore washes through the vaults, corrupting everything and
everyone it touches. The basilica's guardians and priests, so
recently counted amongst the Emperor's most virtuous
servants, roam the nearby streets seizing hapless citizens to
use as blood sacrifices upon the tainted altar. For eight days
and nights the orgies of gore continue, each fresh death
luring yet more Daemons through to the mortal world. Hour
by hour, the Bloodtide spreads further and further across Van
Horne - it is estimated that the entire planet will be
enveloped in a matter of days. On the morning of the ninth
day. Sisters of Battle from the Order of the Ebon Chalice
assault the basilica. Some Battle Sisters are corrupted on
contact with the Bloodtide. Those who endure fight valiantly,
but most are slaughtered by the Blood letters atop the basilica
walls. It is only when the Grey Knights' 4th Brotherhood
arrives on Van Horne that the Bloodtide is abated.
Needing a talisman of purity to protect against the Bloodtide's
taint, the Grey Knights' first act is to turn their blades upon
the surviving Sisters of Battle. The innocent blood thus spilled
is then mixed with blessed oils and used to anoint the Grey
Knights' armour and weapons. So shielded, the Grey Knights
are able to stride through the goreflood without risk of
corruption, and they smash their way into the basilica's heart.
A trio of Librarians lead the attack, enunciating the cants of
cleansing that repel the Bloodtide wherever they tread. In the
end, Ka'jagga'nath is only defeated through the selfless
sacrifice of Ordan, Champion of the 4th Brotherhood. Before
Ka'jagga'nath's spirit can escape his ruined body, the Grey
Knights are able to cast the Daemon's dark presence back
into the Warp, and the psychic backwash banishes the
Bloodtide and the Daemons it drew forth.

I was also really wanting to read about the GK chaplains, the sole reason why no GK has turned to chaos and yet they were left out of the codex.

[OrkPork]

You're right, that makes no sense at all.

The GK chaplains are the main reason they have never been corrupted? I thought it had more to do with their general nature, but I'm not exactly an expert on GK fluff.

[Codicier Valtrius]

There's alot of contributing factors, including the GK geneseed being rumered to come from the Emperor himself and their Aegis Armour but the chaplains role is to keep the faith of the marines intact. During the Hammer of Daemons novel a GK is captured and forced to fight for Khorne, with a brace around his neck that renders his psychic powers useless, his hexagrammic wards have no effect, leaving only his own psyche that must repel the temptations. During this ordeal he has visions and talks to his close friend, a chaplain (can't remember his name) that keeps his faith in the Emperor strong and thus does not become the first GK to be turned.

(Arguably) The most valuable asset the GK has are chaplains and yet not a word is mentioned about them in the codex. They are required in the GK chapter more so than others as all GK are psykers and so each one could potentially bring a daemon incursion, it is for that reason the chaplains were created after Lorgar (i think) brought librarians to the table (literally too ) I think the chaplains are also involved in consecrating the chapters bolts and wargear, but Im not 100% sure about that one.

[Darkanis]

In matts story why would a gk willing corrupt himself??? read any fluff or canon before this and no gk has ever fallen to chaos. thats what makes them gk and not normal sm.

[JC 042]

On the argument of Chaplains there like Commisars, souly responsible for the sm spiritual needs, they are also the priests who do consecrate stuff in the name of the Empra but thats normaly left to the cog boys with in the name of the omnisiah.

Also I read that GK book, it was awesome. A single grey knight kills a Daemon Prince by himself who had previously caused the death of several conpanies of gk, killed the FIRST TITAN! He killed an STC! He couldnt kill an stc cuz it wasnt a daemon but then he said "hey, your daemon" then the stc becomes a daemon and he kiils it! He also single handedly destroy an entire daemon world! By himself!!!

[OrkPork]

I know what a chaplain does, but aren't grey knights built to be incorruptible regardless of a chaplain's aid?

[CruciasNZ]

I know what a chaplain does, but aren't grey knights built to be incorruptible regardless of a chaplain's aid?

They are incorruptible correct

[JC 042]

Also the Chaplains are the ones that train them to be incorruptible during initiation.

And on the topic of the poor Sister of Battle suffering a lot of but hurt after Matt Ward happened: http://1d4chan.org/w...04057080538.png

A Space Marine who remembers the events personaly: http://1d4chan.org/w...le:SalaRage.jpg

[OrkPork]

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.